Runic weapons that exist where no hammer does

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  1. Blaise

    Blaise Well-Known Member
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    There have been very very few high end runic hammers produced on the shard to date. As far as I, and the other heavily addicted blacksmiths understand it, agapite is the best hammer we've seen yet. Looking at the first link here, it's clear we're still in that same state right now, where nothing higher than agapite exists. As it stands, there's still only one in existence and if I guess correctly, Mutombo has it still.

    So please, can anyone figure out the solution to this riddle of who managed to get not only verite (2207) but valorite (2219) weapons crafted as well.
    So far it's clear that they are only in the 'commonly used in pvp' category. Perhaps this is in an Admin's pack somewhere but this is terribly misleading to see in the database. None of them are faction blessed (or they would have their relevant faction hue).


    http://www.uorenaissance.com/?page=m_item_details&itemtype=RunicHammer&itemnum=13E3


    http://www.uorenaissance.com/?page=m_item_details&itemtype=Spear&itemnum=F63

    http://www.uorenaissance.com/?page=m_item_details&itemtype=DoubleAxe&itemnum=F4C

    http://www.uorenaissance.com/?page=m_item_details&itemtype=Halberd&itemnum=143F



    Anyway, whatever tooth fairy is dropping the most difficult to obtain weapons on the entire shard, please stop by my house. I want some too.
  2. HateCrime

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    I'll take one as well please. I'd love to see what a valorite runic hally would do to somebodies face. Or a valorite runic dp'd warfork.... mmmmm
  3. Mandevu

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    Woah..who the hell is carrying val runic weps? Best I've seen so far is golden..haven't seen anyone with agapite. I know cynic said he's damn close to obtaining a verite hammer, but doesn't have one yet.
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    While fighting on test center last weekend, a valorite runic halberd les was using was getting 70 dmg hits. Not sure on the warfork, but long spears were getting fairly consistent 50 dmg hits and axes coupled with gm lumberjacking were getting in the mid to upper 60s.

    The hally was easily doing enough dmg to where you could just run around with an eb precasted and basically insta kill people if you got a big hally hit.
  5. Blaise

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    HateCrime has/had agapite runics. I think I bought the halberd and katana back from him after the blessings wore off.

    I'm a far cry from agapite or higher runic hammers and I do a LOT of smith bods.

    Also, I have the double axe/halberd/katana combo in Caramon's bank, in agapite.
  6. HateCrime

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    That's awesome lol. Someday I shall do just that! Anyways, I see 2 valorite weapons that are not blessed. This to me says that staff has said items. It would be instantly realized if any player used them or even equipped them for any period of time. And what would the point be of having one locked away in a chest somewhere? Meh. Unless your a self pixel fapper I don't think we have an issue here.
  7. Blaise

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    None of the verite/valorite weapons I can find in the DB are blessed (or as I said, they would be hued according to their faction).
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    I do agree that it is misleading to see on the database as Blaise has previously stated. Figured I'd add that comment to this post before I take off on my trip. Enjoy your Friday/Weekend everyone.

    Also, runics are not the only items on the database that either do not exist or where not all items are held by players. I've encountered this several other times as well. With that said, please give me a key to trammel land so I can stock up on said items.
  9. Blaise

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    Yeah, I'm not trying to make claims about anything nefarious, just being sad/jealous that they exist somewhere on production and I don't have them. lol

    Last time I noticed some shit like this it was a staff member wearing an item that just doesn't/shouldn't exist here, which was corrected later.

    I occasionally browse the DB for shits and giggles and this made me not giggle.
  10. Dalavar

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    Was it the case in the early days of the shard that you could create ore-colored weapons without the runic hammer? That would be my guess.
  11. Blaise

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    No, it was not the case. These items are recent additions to a DB list I have checked several times in the past.
  12. Dalavar

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    Ahh OK. This is why I love the website! Hopefully Chris can answer, as we'd surely see the runic hammer (if existed) on your first link. So the next most likely explanation is that it's from some kind of contest or event. (Maybe related to how you can get a valorite or verite hued desk for 1st or 2nd in the writing contests). And I'd bet a hearty crate of cash that they're not magically or exceptionally modded.
  13. Mandevu

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    They're pre patched regular weapons created before ore hues stopped applying to weapons
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    So that's why they weren't in the database when I was checking it regularly for the last 6+ months?
    Ok, thanks.

    I know for a fact these weapons did not exist because when I purchased/traded for the agapite runic hammer from bartimus, I checked every type of good weapon to get a count of how many of each ore type was out at the time. There were absolutely 0 Verite or Valorite weapons and that has been the case for many months now.

    There has never been a verite or valorite runic hammer to craft them either. Unless someone got one and banged out 25 attempts and there's only a small handful of results to show for it now.o_O
  15. Mandevu

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    I think you're mistaken. I know of one player who has one valorite and one verite weapon that is gm crafted but hued in those colors which were crafted prepatch. In other words, you used to be able to craft ore hued REGULAR weapons with a regular smith hammer and the appropriate ore; you didn't need a val runic hammer to create a val hued weapon.
  16. Blaise

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    I understand what you are implying about pre-patch crafted items. However, I am also fairly certain that this was not possible any time after Beta(unless that was part of the patch that stopped horned/barbed/spined sandal crafting also), in which case they definitely wouldn't exist.

    I'm not sure how this one player managed to keep these weapons from showing up in the DB for the past year.

    Also, for what it's worth, after skimming patch notes, this is the closest thing I could find with any semblance of relation to the topic at hand:
    • Crafting
      • Resolved a problem that was causing crafted items to not inherit the proper hue from the material that was used to craft the item.
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  17. Cynic

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    What happens if you are dumb enough to burn a runic charge and not use the proper colored ingots?

    I.E. bronze runic hammer with valorite ingots? Perhaps a bug where you get a valorite hued weapon minus the runic properties?

    Or..

    Staff created a runic or ore hued weapon for one reason or another. Perhaps this was part of a contest reward somewhere?
  18. Blaise

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    You can't use a runic hammer to craft without the correct and matching type of ingot.


    If it was created by staff for something or a part of an event, then that can easily be clarified. That is the purpose of this thread.

    Either time, or staff, will tell I suppose.
  19. Dalavar

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    You can on test...
  20. Blaise

    Blaise Well-Known Member
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    Sorry, to be absolutely clear, you can't use a runic hammer to craft a colored weapon without the correct and matching hammer and ingots.

    All results wind up identical to using iron and standard tools.

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